The Genius, Museum and Art vs Craft: Reading Larry Shiner’s The Invention of Art | Pt. 2
Update: 2023-12-01
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Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv take a deep-dive into Larry Shiner's book The Invention of Art (2001), commenting on the contents from the perspective of classical painting and culture.
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Chapter markers:
00:00 Architects separated from masons
05:16 Craft vs. genius
09:41 “Creative imagination” vs imitation
20:11 Kant's superhuman genius
24:25 Artification of music and the idiosyncratic world of genius
31:20 “From patronage to market”
44:21 Art vs. money, copyright and the “aesthetic”
48:50 “Kant and Schiller sum up the aesthetic”
53:24 Kant's “fine art vs craft” & indifference vs. storytelling
58:00 Kant's spontaneous genius
1:00:42 Schiller
1:03:28 Museums as the great neutralizers
1:15:28 de Quincy's warnings against the museum
1:19:26 Do we need museums?
This episode featured Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed by Myndin Nerdrum and Auden Dillon.
The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope.
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Chapter markers:
00:00 Architects separated from masons
05:16 Craft vs. genius
09:41 “Creative imagination” vs imitation
20:11 Kant's superhuman genius
24:25 Artification of music and the idiosyncratic world of genius
31:20 “From patronage to market”
44:21 Art vs. money, copyright and the “aesthetic”
48:50 “Kant and Schiller sum up the aesthetic”
53:24 Kant's “fine art vs craft” & indifference vs. storytelling
58:00 Kant's spontaneous genius
1:00:42 Schiller
1:03:28 Museums as the great neutralizers
1:15:28 de Quincy's warnings against the museum
1:19:26 Do we need museums?
This episode featured Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed by Myndin Nerdrum and Auden Dillon.
The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope.
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Fergus Ryan
Matthias Proy
Børge Moe
Diego
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